Schreier & Druckmann conversation, The Last of Us Part II
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Jason Schreier Jeff Cannata Neil Druckmann @Neil_Druckmann · 4h @jasonschreier @jeffcannata With all due respect, I find these kinds of ironic jokes to be unproductive at · especially by those of us with thousands of followers and especially about sensitive subject matter. best. We can do better with critical discourse – Hyperbole is fun and all but if you're thinking about comparing the new zombie video game to a movie about the Holocaust mayyyyybe hit the brakes This is why we can't have discourse anymore. Because even a colleague you KNOWS me would rather subtweet manufactured outrage, than attempt to understand what is actually being said. So depressing. JONT WICK, The LaST Ol US Pait z iS Schindler's List. And just like that film, there were times whenI wasn't sure I could keep going. It is a relen.. Jeff Cannata @jeffcannata Show this thread Jason Schreier O @jasonschreier · Jun 12 In a medium where everything is John Wick, The Last of Us Part 2 is Schindler's List. And just like that film, there were times when I wasn't sure I could keep going. It is a relentless emotional assault that I suspect will force even the most jaded gamer to feel empathy 2/5 Hyperbole is fun and all but if you're thinking about comparing the new zombie video game to a movie about the Holocaust mayyyyybe hit the brakes 27 25 35 512 Wow, Bob Mackey! @bobservo · 1d truly Ikaruga is the Elie Wiesel's Night of shmups Jeff Cannata @jeffcannata In a medium where everything is John Wick, The Last of Us Part 2 is Schindler's List. And just like that film, there were times when I wasn't sure I could keep going It is a relentless emotional assault that I suspect will force even the most jaded gamer to feel empathy 2/5 3:00 AM · Jun 12, 2020 · Twitter Web App 841 27 1K 6K 508 Retweets 522 Likes Jason Schreier @jasonschreier 9:17 PM · Jun 12, 2020 · Twitter Web App Replying to @Neil_Druckmann 3:00 AM · Jun 12, 2020 · Twitter Web App Hey Neil, this is weirdly personal. Still not sure why you feel the need to go after me multiple times for expressing that I felt an analogy was tacky. I sure hope it's not related to my recent reporting on your studio. Jason Schreier @jasonschreier · Jun 12 Oh am I being too sensitive? l'd ask some of my family members for their thoughts but they died in Auschwitz 508 Retweets 522 Likes 67 27 20 1.1K 12:11 AM · Jun 13, 2020 · Twitter Web App Neil Druckmann @Neil_Druckmann · Jun 12 Be well and best of luck on the launch. To me it's clear that Jeff is comparing an emotional response between two pieces of media (not subject matter or importance.) I didn't take it as direct comparison between our game and the holocaust itself (or even as a way to diminish the weight of that film.) 96 Retweets 1.6K Likes 9:14 PM · Jun 14, 2020 · Twitter Web App 332 Retweets 4.4K Likes 20 27 62 1.6K Jason Schreier @jasonschreier · Jun 13 Neil Druckmann @Neil_Druckmann · Jun 12 I'm not trying to pick a fight, but feel obligated to respond as these kind of comments can escalate to claims of antisemitism. Btw, this is coming from someone who lost many members of their family to the holocaust as well. Hope this comes across respectfully. Replying to @jeffcannata Manufactured outrage? I guess the fact that you'd go full how dare you SJW instead of listening to the many people who have tried to explain to you why this comparison is tacky says it all @corybarlog · 3h Cory Balrog Replying to @jasonschreier and @Neil_Druckmann Tweets are difficult to interpret nuance, but I have to say that lately you come across as a bit of a bully, Jason. 67 27 5 127 10 27 32 1.4K Jeff Cannata @jeffcannata · Jun 13 @jasonschreier · Jun 12 Neil I would be shocked if you weren't reacting positively to a thread hyperventilating about your game! To an outside observer it comes off as clumsy and crass. Congrats on the launch, looking forward to playing I get that your bread and butter is tearing us down, but not everything is about your book or articles. Sometimes it is just about being decent to each other. Jason Schreier Dude. Come on. I never said SJW. What the hell is this? Why are you putting words in my mouth? Again, I am comparing a MOVIE made by Steven Speilberg starring Liam Neeson to a video game. And not based on content! Based on how is MOVED me! l'm saying art has power! COME ON 198 27 348 3K 46 27 10 425 27 27 11 557 Jason Schrejer @jasonschreier · 3h Jason Schreier @jasonschreier · Jun 13 Jeff, you compared your feelings watching the fictional events of a video game to your feelings watching a depiction of the Holocaust. If you don't see why that might come off as crass to some of us, I don't know what else Wow, Cory. If by us you mean people in power who facilitate the overwork and exploitation of labor then sure, l'd be proud to say my bread and butter is tearing you down. If by us you mean game developers then that's Jason Schreier @jasonschreier Replying to @pixelatedboat and @bobservo nonsense and we both know it to tell you. No outrage here, just exhaustion See, Bioshock's audio logs are a lot like the diary of Anne Frank (1/37) 142 27 316 2.3K 25 79 Jeff Cannata @jeffcannata · Jun 13 5:08 AM · Jun 13, 2020 · Twitter for iPhone You're still wrong. I wasn't even comparing my feelings. I was comparing what the two pieces of art are trying to do. I.e. Not give you fun. But you were never interested in actually understanding me. Otherwise you would 5 Retweets 152 Likes have emailed me instead of all of this. 14 217
Jason Schreier Jeff Cannata Neil Druckmann @Neil_Druckmann · 4h @jasonschreier @jeffcannata With all due respect, I find these kinds of ironic jokes to be unproductive at · especially by those of us with thousands of followers and especially about sensitive subject matter. best. We can do better with critical discourse – Hyperbole is fun and all but if you're thinking about comparing the new zombie video game to a movie about the Holocaust mayyyyybe hit the brakes This is why we can't have discourse anymore. Because even a colleague you KNOWS me would rather subtweet manufactured outrage, than attempt to understand what is actually being said. So depressing. JONT WICK, The LaST Ol US Pait z iS Schindler's List. And just like that film, there were times whenI wasn't sure I could keep going. It is a relen.. Jeff Cannata @jeffcannata Show this thread Jason Schreier O @jasonschreier · Jun 12 In a medium where everything is John Wick, The Last of Us Part 2 is Schindler's List. And just like that film, there were times when I wasn't sure I could keep going. It is a relentless emotional assault that I suspect will force even the most jaded gamer to feel empathy 2/5 Hyperbole is fun and all but if you're thinking about comparing the new zombie video game to a movie about the Holocaust mayyyyybe hit the brakes 27 25 35 512 Wow, Bob Mackey! @bobservo · 1d truly Ikaruga is the Elie Wiesel's Night of shmups Jeff Cannata @jeffcannata In a medium where everything is John Wick, The Last of Us Part 2 is Schindler's List. And just like that film, there were times when I wasn't sure I could keep going It is a relentless emotional assault that I suspect will force even the most jaded gamer to feel empathy 2/5 3:00 AM · Jun 12, 2020 · Twitter Web App 841 27 1K 6K 508 Retweets 522 Likes Jason Schreier @jasonschreier 9:17 PM · Jun 12, 2020 · Twitter Web App Replying to @Neil_Druckmann 3:00 AM · Jun 12, 2020 · Twitter Web App Hey Neil, this is weirdly personal. Still not sure why you feel the need to go after me multiple times for expressing that I felt an analogy was tacky. I sure hope it's not related to my recent reporting on your studio. Jason Schreier @jasonschreier · Jun 12 Oh am I being too sensitive? l'd ask some of my family members for their thoughts but they died in Auschwitz 508 Retweets 522 Likes 67 27 20 1.1K 12:11 AM · Jun 13, 2020 · Twitter Web App Neil Druckmann @Neil_Druckmann · Jun 12 Be well and best of luck on the launch. To me it's clear that Jeff is comparing an emotional response between two pieces of media (not subject matter or importance.) I didn't take it as direct comparison between our game and the holocaust itself (or even as a way to diminish the weight of that film.) 96 Retweets 1.6K Likes 9:14 PM · Jun 14, 2020 · Twitter Web App 332 Retweets 4.4K Likes 20 27 62 1.6K Jason Schreier @jasonschreier · Jun 13 Neil Druckmann @Neil_Druckmann · Jun 12 I'm not trying to pick a fight, but feel obligated to respond as these kind of comments can escalate to claims of antisemitism. Btw, this is coming from someone who lost many members of their family to the holocaust as well. Hope this comes across respectfully. Replying to @jeffcannata Manufactured outrage? I guess the fact that you'd go full how dare you SJW instead of listening to the many people who have tried to explain to you why this comparison is tacky says it all @corybarlog · 3h Cory Balrog Replying to @jasonschreier and @Neil_Druckmann Tweets are difficult to interpret nuance, but I have to say that lately you come across as a bit of a bully, Jason. 67 27 5 127 10 27 32 1.4K Jeff Cannata @jeffcannata · Jun 13 @jasonschreier · Jun 12 Neil I would be shocked if you weren't reacting positively to a thread hyperventilating about your game! To an outside observer it comes off as clumsy and crass. Congrats on the launch, looking forward to playing I get that your bread and butter is tearing us down, but not everything is about your book or articles. Sometimes it is just about being decent to each other. Jason Schreier Dude. Come on. I never said SJW. What the hell is this? Why are you putting words in my mouth? Again, I am comparing a MOVIE made by Steven Speilberg starring Liam Neeson to a video game. And not based on content! Based on how is MOVED me! l'm saying art has power! COME ON 198 27 348 3K 46 27 10 425 27 27 11 557 Jason Schrejer @jasonschreier · 3h Jason Schreier @jasonschreier · Jun 13 Jeff, you compared your feelings watching the fictional events of a video game to your feelings watching a depiction of the Holocaust. If you don't see why that might come off as crass to some of us, I don't know what else Wow, Cory. If by us you mean people in power who facilitate the overwork and exploitation of labor then sure, l'd be proud to say my bread and butter is tearing you down. If by us you mean game developers then that's Jason Schreier @jasonschreier Replying to @pixelatedboat and @bobservo nonsense and we both know it to tell you. No outrage here, just exhaustion See, Bioshock's audio logs are a lot like the diary of Anne Frank (1/37) 142 27 316 2.3K 25 79 Jeff Cannata @jeffcannata · Jun 13 5:08 AM · Jun 13, 2020 · Twitter for iPhone You're still wrong. I wasn't even comparing my feelings. I was comparing what the two pieces of art are trying to do. I.e. Not give you fun. But you were never interested in actually understanding me. Otherwise you would 5 Retweets 152 Likes have emailed me instead of all of this. 14 217
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